Thursday, January 28, 2010

Vote for Godly Leaders or Raise Godly Leaders!

"Back in 1999 and 2000, I worked in the security department for Qwest Telecommunications, a telephone service provider for 14 states.

Our department's main responsibility was to answer queries from law enforcement agencies nationwide, whether they were local police, sheriff's departments, state police, or FBI, the coroner or other agencies.

Each of these agencies would fax us either a subpoena or a court order demanding phone records for customers. This might be a phone bill or a detailed call record for a certain period of time. We never fulfilled these requests unless it was an official court document! Unless it was from the IRS! The IRS had their own form they sent in that demanded records and our department was required to comply. These documents they sent us were their own documents and were not verified in any way by an outside court of law!

The IRS is crooked!"

~Adam B.


The early church was known for paying their taxes. We believe the best way to ‘resist’ is to submit to the bondage we are under, and raise and disciple those God will use to leaven the earth with His kingdom, until these things are changed. ~Regina

Wednesday, January 27, 2010

Feminist Gulag: No Prosecution Necessary

“In any dispute between a man and a woman that involves the legal system, men are almost always denied their right to a trial by jury. Cases are often heard by a judge surrogate – a lawyer dressed like a judge – and there is no presumption of innocence.” -- Patrick Henry College Professor Stephen Baskerville

He also pointed out that the definition of “domestic ‘violence’ is defined so loosely that it need not be violent. The U.S Justice Department definition includes ‘extreme jealously and possessiveness’ and ‘name calling and constant criticizing.’ For such crimes men are jailed with no trial.”

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/culture/family/2705-feminist-gulag-no-prosecution-necessary

This is just an example of why a young man must fear the Lord in who he chooses to marry. An immoral woman is a deep pit and a narrow well, even under the most just law system.

The scripture gives a whole list of things older women are to teach younger women, but only one mentioned in Titus 2 for older men to teach younger men to be "sober-minded."

~Regina

Sunday, January 24, 2010

Steel Building Construction

Dinah
Construction

Insulation

Snack before Sat. breakfast at the computer during Webnar 3

VJ & Melody taking webnar notes.
It's tough to stay up with GBotkin.

Monopoly

Neighborly Goats


Garden Girl

Lance

Replacing Library Window

Replacing Lance & Victor's Window

Enjoying the Clear View

Replacing Regina's Bedroom Window


Rainwater filled a few 55 gallon barrels in 24 Hours

Steel
Dinah

Steel Construction


Power
Lift
Progress

Jodavid examined the heavy duty fork lift.

Then he built one of his own

using erector set parts


Jodavid's Heavy Duty Fork Lift Model

Notes from Dynamics of Dominion Webinar

Prayer: We are your slaves and your servants. All of our experiences are to serve You. We lay our lives down to serve You. How can we do that as men? We live in a crooked and perverse generation. Make us new creatures today with new minds from what we were yesterday.

How to Determine Your Life Mission

I speak to you as hardworking, tax paying business men. We must be about our father’s business of world-wide dominion. The Institutes of Biblical Law by R.J. Rushdoony is mandatory reading in our family. Work can be a means of creating the future as we love our wives and provide for them through work.

All men have a dominion orientation, because we were created in the image of God. We love trucks, guns and have snowball fights in earnest.

A Marxist definition of entrepreneurialism:

“Using revolutionary energy to force cultural disintegration…”

A Christian variation would be: “Using servant leadership and masculine energy to create cultural virtue and maturity through the pursuit of broad Christian influence without regard to resources currently controlled.”

What is Vocation?

It is mandatory for every Christian man, woman, young man and young woman, to be energetically devoted and constructively creative.

Multi-faceted communities can be governed by the word of God.

RC Jr. Sproul wrote in Bound for Glory that: Men go into the jungle and turn it into a garden. The difference is, we do this for Him rather than ourselves.

By covenant, we act in the place of the creator. It required mandatory entrepreneurial energy and success on God’s terms. “The earth must be utilized to develop God’s covenant mandate.” R.J. Rushdoony

Deut 5:29 “Oh that they have such a heart in them, that they would fear Me and keep all My commandments.”

Our life mission must be dominion. How do we determine where to specialize? John Milton wrote: “I call therefore a complete and generous education that which fits a man to perform justly, skillfully and magnanimously all the offices both private and public, of peace and war.”

We must read and study even though the theological foundation of entrepreneurialism is gone.


American men have inherited a misguided perspective, “Captive to philosophy and empty deception according to the tradition of men according to the elementary principles of the world.”

“Mr. Botkin, I am trying to decide whether to go into secular work or seminary?” Will your wife work to put you through seminary, debt, get a church with a good pension, so you do that till you are 65? This is what we’ve inherited till we learn a more faithful way to do it. R.J. R. quote: “The common opinion in every branch of Christendom, is that a Christian calling means entrance into the ranks of the clergy.”

Secular worker, Personal kingdom builder, Quiet wage earner, Compliant Citizen, Religions Sacerdotalism, Professional clergy, Religious hireling

There is no sacred/secular distinction in scripture. This undercuts the kingdom of God and is corrupt. To have an educated clergy and ignorant layity is wrong. It blinds men to biblical orthopraxy. It destroys a Christian work ethic and Biblical entrepreneur. It tempts men to subordinate their lives to a different sovereign or to create new institutions that supplant God’s institutions for institutions that may or may not be biblical: College, Statist Professional.

Those who try to strengthen the family and the church are singled out as rebels who are destroying the special institutions that have been established. The fruit is avarice, boredom. Men, you are to rule well and gently over your homes, as Jesus would.

He is a fool who lays up for himself and is not rich toward God.

Biblical attitude Cor. 8:9 Jesus was rich became poor.

With Christ’s attitude of sacrificial right priorities,

The Quadravocational Mission:

Estate Manager of a multigenerational inheritance library he puts together, house he will build, a multigenerational inheritance that are passed down. Young boys need to be thinking about this all the time.

Here is my vision for what dinner time looks like, what our grandchildren will look like.

Business Resource Developer is a service provider to a free economy. Immigrants do this well, Chinese change businesses every few years as they learn and grow. We can do this too. I told you about a computer programmer big salary, big commute no time with family who left it and worked with his sons.

A young woman asks, ‘how do you plan to provide.’ He will work with this talent providing a niche building business resources. A janitorial businessman, developed and sold. That is what businessmen do.

A nation builder with international influence comes from final commandment that Jesus gave us, “All authority has been given to me.” Just so there is not any confusion, “Go make disciples of all nations teaching them to do everything, whatsoever I have commanded you.”

How can we do this when we are just trying to make ends meet? If we are more than conquers, where is our faith? If Nineveh can repent, America can repent.

Is it wrong to be an employee? Not if this is a time to invest to learn or to help another man develop business. “If you were called while a slave… but if you can be free, become free.

It is a godly thing to learn a trade and help a godly boss. Some men are better suited to be an employee. You need the greatest wisdom to know who to serve. Please serve a good man. Young men understand, “I need to learn as quickly as I can.” Seasons change, but we can accomplish all four objectives all our lives. Little boys need to learn to be under the yolk in their youth, so they will know how to serve honorably.

It is really hard for us to see ourselves as an ecclesiastical shepherd of militant churches. The church has been out of order since the 1840’s: One man in front, the rest sitting in pews, not really needed. One cannot say because the church is helpless and weak does not mean it cannot be made right and good. It is the duty to do all four of these jobs simultaneously from about age 13: 1) Estate Developer, 2) Resource Developer, 3) Nation Builder 4) Ecclesiastical Shepherd.

The qualifications of a church leader are the basic threshold of Christian men. I Timothy, Titus 1 Men must cultivate those character qualities in their lives, training of men and deploying men to start new churches, going from Jerusalem, Samaria [to the uttermost parts of the earth.] That is church militancy, not weapons to hurt people, it is blessing people. Thirteen-year-old men in churches should be discipling younger boys asking, “What books are you reading? What scripture are you memorizing?” These are building up their churches. 13-year-olds can be ecclesiastical shepherds without having an office in the church.

You all need to have the character qualifications of an elder. [Learn to reason from scripture.]

The missionaries in South America had guns. Their friends were being killed. [My] sons began to pull out and reason from scripture to answer rightly. One cannot say our opinion on such weighty matters. Son, learn to apply the word of God to every aspect of life. Learn to be nation builders.

Q: We have to get our homes in order before taking dominion in other areas?

We are all patriarchs, either good ones or negligent ones. A two-day old Christian is twice as old as a one-day old Christian. The more we apply all these things, the more humble it makes us. Help me get out of debt, help my temper, help me clean up my police department.

Our wives fall in love with us when they see us thinking this way, children look up to this.

When we get serious about these, we will be accused of cultism because we are not like the quiet impotent men around us.

This model helps boys become productive men in every regard

It silences false criticism about family or church cultism

It sets men on a dominion mission that they own.

Check with the elders about everything, get their blessing. They will be so happy. During seasons of my life when I am not an officer of the church, I want the officers to know what I am teaching and if they have a problem with that.

Lessons: Sons need an eternal perspective, reminder of their unique standing before God as a man. Do your sons think they don't have their family yet? Yes they do: How are they submitting to their parents, discipling siblings, growing wealth, not being deceived by get rich quick schemes. The goal is not just raising money. True wealth needs a vision for bearing fruit on God’s terms.

Building as an Estate Manager

Foundation of Character: feeding chickens, keeping fence strong

Stewardship

Finding and pursuing a wife, relating kindly with their siblings

Marriage

Children

Long Range Estate Planning

Theology of dominion

The Bible teaches that inheritance is based on character and obedience we cannot subsidize sin. If one of our sons goes off the rails, if he declares war against God we cannot subsidize that. He needs to come to repentance.

Business Resource Developer

Character

A love of service

An appreciation of generosity

Standards of the Contract Law > It is good when you do not need 10,000 attorneys to make an agreement with another men.

Nation Builder

Need to understand law, must apply God’s law

History of freedom and tyranny

Judgment

A love of the Church

Knowledge of Errors of the Day

Escapism pragmatism

Dangers of Marxism, feminism, Armenianism, false masculinity

True wealth

Free market economics

Law

Statesmanship: as family grows [it will be] influential have international influence.

Shepherd of Militant Churches

Personal character

A love for the saints

Good Militant Ecclesiology

The Power of Friendship

Strategic Planning

Understanding of Judgment and Blessing (Deut 28, Lev. 26)

Elder Qualifications

Holiness and Discipline – nothing more majestic than a young man who is growing to be a dignified, biblical man.

The Church is designed to be on the front lines.

Every man can be doing all these things simultaneously. In different seasons one will be emphasized more than another.

For a young father much time is spent working with young children.

Is it wrong to give our talents and abilities to companies? No, yet strive to be free men.

The Anglican Church was never reformed.

On a case-by-case basis, analyze who you are making successful.

Life mission: Increased and daring faith, I needed to be a nation builder, decipling sons, churches, and families. Let us be responsible, mature patriarchs not infantile. Making a 200 year plan helped me see… unbelieving nations faking obedience.

Godly missions for young men

Putting your house in order and being always honorable and respectful. Make disciples. Study theology as a workman that need not be ashamed.

We should study theology as commanded by God, English composition, history: the Providence of God. Greek philosophy when one is mature, able to reason from scripture.

Learn as many jobs as you can when young. Learn to handle resources. Carefully handle accounts.

Marriage: The puritans never saw the problem of age difference, rather of compatibility. Younger women can marry older men. He should inform her of what to expect. It is wrong to defraud a woman. She should not be shocked by the reality of living with you.

Never settle for ungodly wives. It is the role of the father to lead adult children into godly marriage. Inspire to humility. It is ugly pride for one to say, I am old enough to be married; I want to marry now. Impatience is a warning sign. It lacks humility.

Sons can be dynamic leaders with character of elders. Wives should be wise industrious women with very mature character.

I admire young men who approach me about my daughters for their courage.

[He asks the young men.] Do you know what your life mission is?

Young women need to remember that their husbands are commanded to love them. Work to be lovable in humility. Theological helpmeets are needed for dynamic leadership.

Courtship will work if each family are very carful in their definitions and move together.

Recommended reading: Institutes of Biblical Law

Dinner time conversations: Bible applied to issues of the day. For young children: what does the Bible say about forgiving, being kind to one another.

Older children, conversation spreads to interpersonal relationships with neighbor children.

Older, issues of the day, news: earth quake in Haiti, health care bill. In season and out of season expound the word of God. Daddy, how is the church in Haiti doing? Daddy is there time for Marshall Law? You will be astounded as your children bring the Word of God to the table.

Go to your elders and ask: Am I doing what you would like to have done? Contact them; invite them to correspond with me. If your spiritual authorities don’t want you in on this conversation, bow out respectfully. Honor godly jurisdiction. When my daughters speak up when there are men in the room, they are not exercising authority over a man. Let your pastors know, invite them, move forward together. Commend your children to the providence of God in the future.

We have been assigned a dominion covenant, a God-given assignment to men to conquer in His name (Gen 1:23; 9:1-7). God created man for dominion, to act as his vice-gerent over creation, governing and ruling it for his glory (Gen 1:28ff.).

The earth is the Lord’s, and all it contains (1 Cor. 10:26), and He calls us to exercise godly dominion of the nations under Him, in His name, as his vicegerents on the earth. A vicegerent, according to the Webster’s 1828 dictionary, is one “Having or exercising delegated power; acting by substitution, or in the place of another.” Rushdoony explains,

“Of Christ we are told that He is ‘the head of all principality and power’ (Col. 2:10), or, in the words of the Berkeley Version, ‘the head of all princedom and authority.’ This means that in Christ we are to claim every domain for Him and as His, and to exercise the authority of His law-word in every sphere. One such sphere is the natural world around us, and the earth beneath our feet. All things must be developed in terms of His dominion mandate. The development of agriculture and of technology, of mining, horticulture, and all related disciplines, is a religious duty. The earth must be utilized to develop God’s covenant mandate.” (R.J. Rushdoony, Systematic Theology)

Rushdoony writes: “Wealth is a legitimate goal only towards establishing and furthering God’s covenant and its dominion mandate. This is very clearly stated in Deuteronomy 8:18: ‘But thou shalt remember the Lord thy God: for it is he that giveth thee power to get wealth, that he may establish his covenant, which he sware unto thy fathers, as it is this day.’ It is a sin to believe, ‘My power and the might of mine hand hath gotten me this wealth’ (Deut. 8:17). God’s covenant requires the godly use by all of their land, wealth, and abilities.” (R.J. Rushdoony, Systematic Theology)

Dominion is not revolutionary domination; it is quiet faithfulness and obedience. Dominion is not political force or manipulation, it is sacrificial public service. Dominion is not top-down control, it is the assent of many governed. Dominion is not arrogant assertion; it is humble admission of a domain that already exists. Dominion is not mindless submission to statist civilization, but faithful celebration of Christian civilization. Dominion is not seizing of influence but being granted responsibility by God’s supernatural blessing.

Saturday, January 23, 2010

Polygamy

“And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah,

and the name of the other Zillah. –Genesis 4:19

We have here the origin of polygamy in a perverse and degenerate race; and the first author of it, a cruel man, destitute of all humanity. Whether he had been impelled by an immoderate desire of augmenting his own family, as proud and ambitious men are wont to be, or by mere lust, it is of little consequence to determine, because, in either way he violated the sacred law of marriage, which had been delivered by God. For God had determined, that “they” “two should be one flesh,” and that is the perpetual order of nature. Lamech, with brutal contempt of God, corrupts nature’s laws. The Lord, therefore, willed that the corruption of lawful marriage should proceed from the house of Cain, and from the person of Lamech, in order that polygamists might be ashamed of the example.

~Family Reformation: The Legacy of Sola Scriptura in Calvin's Geneva by Scott Brown, pg. 159


David Livingston obviously did the wrong thing in separating men in Africa from their wives beyond the first, leaving women with children without provision.

Yet all men, including young boys should aspire to be elders which would require them to be a husband of one wife. This should not exclude a man who is righteously divorced because a wife is an adulteress, deserts him, or commits a crime worthy of death.

~Esther

Rushdoony on Polygamy


“…I Timothy 3:2 makes clear that polygamy was forbidden to church officers: ‘The bishop then bust be blameless, the husband of one wife…’

…there is at least an implied condemnation of polygamy in Deuteronomy 17:17, which forbade the king to ‘multiply wives to himself.’ Similarly, the high priest could only marry one wife, and that a virgin (Lev. 21:13, 14).

…it is clearly stated by Jesus Christ that marriage is the union of one man and one woman, and that this is the meaning of Genesis 2:24; it is the two or twain who are ‘one flesh,’ i.e., a true marriage (Matt. 19:5).

St. Paul spoke of marriage in monogamous terms: ‘let every man have his own wife, and …every woman … her own husband’ (I Cor.7:2).

In passage after passage, monogamy is assumed to be the God-ordained standard….

The law did recognize and regulate concubinage and polygamy. First, a man could not simply use a concubine. She was entitled to her food, clothing, and sexual relations with out diminution; failure to do these three things was ground for divorce, without any recompense of the dowry or of the bridal money (Ex. 21:10,11). Not even a war-captive woman could be denied her rights (Deut. 21:10-14).

Second, a ‘bondmaid betrothed to a husband’ (Lev. 19:20), i.e., a girl who has been secured as a concubine, could not be put to death for adultery: both she and the guilty man could only be punished by scourging. The reason is given: ‘they shall not be put to death, because she was not free’ (Lev. 19:20). A principle is clearly in evidence here: to whom much is given, from him much can be expected. But, since a concubine receives a limited status and receives less dignity in the marriage, only a limited loyalty can be expected. She was expected to be faithful, but in case of adultery her punishment was less, because her status was lower than that of the endowed wife. The wife had the security of her dowry and a status of authority; her punishment for adultery, as was the punishment for her husband for adultery, was death.

… it is apparent that the law tolerated polygamy while establishing monogamy as the standard. The reason for this toleration was the fact that the polygamous family was still a family, a lower form of family life, but a tolerable one “whereas polyandry is not, since it violates the basic centrality of the man and his calling). Biblical law thus protects the family and does not tolerate adultery, which threatens and destroys the family. Humanistic law protects the anarchistic individual by denying that adultery is a crime, and it sacrifices the family progressively to the individual.

…In a polygamous marriage, the woman tends to be closer to her family than to her husband. Mistreatment of the wife can mean serious trouble with in-laws who are now enemies… In a polygamous family, the ties to the family of origin are usually intense and jealous…

… We can thus conclude,…that only in monogamous marriage is there a true union of man and wife. Instead of competition for a man’s favor, the Christian monogamous marriage sees the woman united to her husband in godly faith and love. There is trust instead of rivalry.

… Christian monogamous marriage is marriage in its truest form because it is faithful to the laws of creation.”

~The Institutes of Biblical Law by Rousas John Rushdoony pg. 363-367

Geoffrey Botkin Reading List

Geoffrey Botkin sent out a reading list so that you know where to go to dig deeper. Below are top recommendations.

Biblical Worldview, in recommended reading order:

By This Standard - Greg L. Bahnsen
Law & Liberty - Rousas John Rushdoony
Always Ready: Directions for Defending the Faith - Greg Bahnsen
The Institutes of Biblical Law - R. J. Rushdoony
Institutes of the Christian Religion - John Calvin
Systematic Theology - R. J. Rushdoony
Sovereignty - R. J. Rushdoony


Other must-read books for men (a necessarily incomplete list):


The Family - J. R. Miller
Foxe's Book of Martyrs - John Foxe
The Genesis Flood - Henry M. Morris and John C. Whitcomb
The Underground History of American Education - John Taylor Gatto
The Great Christian Revolution - Otto Scott
George Washington’s Indispensable Men - Arthur S. Lefkowitz
Economics in One Lesson - Henry Hazlitt
God and Government - Gary DeMar
One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich - Alexander Solzhenitsyn
Citizen Soldiers - Stephen E. Ambrose (or Band of Brothers)
The Road to Serfdom - Friedrich von Hayek
Modern Times - Paul Johnson
Tools of Dominion - Gary North
Lex Rex - Samuel Rutherford
Paradise Restored - David Chilton
Ruler of the Nations - Gary DeMar

Friday, January 22, 2010

Deceivers

The Bible does not use the word "cult." However the Bible does address errors in teaching and practice. It does not take these teachers lightly and it does not excuse those who teach them. The Bible applies to them words such as "heresy," "heretic," "false teachers," "false prophets," "false apostles, and "false Christ's."

http://www.letusreason.org/Cults1.htm

Thursday, January 21, 2010

Republicans and Democrats


In the minds of the ill-informed the political struggle in the United States has always been viewed as a struggle between Republicans and Democrats.
...the idea that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical so that the American people can "throw the rascals out" at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy.

-

Carroll Quigley, Mentor of President William Jefferson Clinton,

in Tragedy and Hope: The History of the World In Our Time.




Wednesday, January 20, 2010

The Story of Jim Jones By Dinah Seppi


“I decided, ‘How can I demonstrate my Marxism?’ The thought was, ‘Infiltrate the church.’ So I consciously made a decision to look into … that prospect.”


~Jim Jones


Early Christmas morning, I walked into Regina’s room. Dad was on the computer reading from lewrockwell.com. There was an article and a documentary on the Jim Jones sect. I wanted to watch it, so we did. Jonestown: The Life and Death of Peoples Temple http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7IxGGfpSWk&feature=related


Here are some of the things that went on:


Members worked long hours. Some would go to work and say, “I only got 2 hours sleep last night.” “We were made to feel guilty for indulging in sleep,” another ex-member said.


When they went to their various jobs in San Francisco, people would ask about the “church,” but nobody would give out information.


Jim Jones controlled his people through fear. He told them people were out to get them, hated them and were against the work they were doing.


The people were afraid to talk to one another about the possibility of their leader being wrong. If they did, they were confronted in front of the whole gathering and made to feel stupid or unsure of their statement. In the latter days of the group, Jim Jones became more and more paranoid and anxious about his reputation. Children were to report on their parents and parents on children.


Jim Jones was emotionally dependent on what people thought of him. If you knew things were not right but you acted like every thing was fine, he was good with that. When he was exposed, he sent threats and searchers after those who left the group.


The People’s Temple assembly revered their leader. He was a very articulate man. When they arrived at Guyana they had a speaker system that would play continuously recorded messages of Jim Jones. It played everywhere: when they worked in the field, when they went to sleep at night.

Jim Jones advocated an unbiblical marriage relationship. The husband and wife were not to have relations, though he made bedroom appointments with many women and later sodomy with the men.

James “Jim” Warren Jones born May 13, 1931 started out as a young child in a dysfunctional family. Jim spent a lot of time alone. The children who grew up with him said he was a strange boy. “He was infatuated with death and dying.” Once he killed his own cat with a knife and then performed a funeral for it. Jones was a voracious reader as a child and studied Josef Stalin, Karl Marx, Mahatma Gandhi and Adolf Hitler carefully noting their strengths and weaknesses. In 1951, Jones became a member of the Communist Party USA at the age of 20 yrs. When he was a young man he attended a Pentecostal Church.


Jim Jones was surprised when a Methodist superintendent helped him get started in the church even though he knew Jones to be a communist.[14] In 1952, Jones became a student pastor in Sommerset Southside Methodist Church.


He learned the ropes and became a pastor. He was appealing to the black community. There would be no difference between black person and white person. They would take care of their poor and “have every thing in common just as the Bible says!”


Jones called everyone to give all they had to the group and the church would provide for them.


Jim Jones did have some good teaching:


It was not good to send old people to rest homes but rather to care for ones own.


Viewing people of different skin color as equally human and to be treated as such.


The “church” grew five fold in five years when Jones bought big buses and traveled around the U.S. calling people to sell all they had and give it to the church and come live with them.


Once Jim Jones held up a Bible during the service, “Do you see this leather book?” This has held people enslaved for generations!” Jones took the bible and threw it in the air toward the back of the “church.” When it hit the cement he said “You see! No bolt of lightning came down and hit me! ....If you want a father I’ll be your father. If you want a savior I’ll be your savior; if you want a god I’ll be your god!”

Jones conducted “healings” that were later proved to be false. He started using drugs. He required that members spend Thanksgiving and Christmas with their Temple "family" rather than with blood relatives,[7] the beginning of a process to wean members from families and redirect their lives toward a total commitment to the Temple's social and political goals.[7 See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peoples_Temple


Jones held a hypnotic effect over his people. They did what he said. Jim Jones carefully studied how to manipulate people without them knowing it.

One survivor said, “We were working so hard we just let him do our thinking for us.”

Jones became more worried about a nuclear attack in the United States and wanted to relocate in Guyana. His son, Stephan Jones worked on preparing the new place for the 900+ people to go. It would be called Jonestown. Stephan said he “loved the work” with the guys. They worked hard, played hard and “we ate well.” But, as soon as his dad arrived, the whole atmosphere changed. Everybody was uptight. “He was very controlling.”

“He was constantly seeking adulation,” Jones needed new people [in the group] because he had to have people who did not really know him, as his son said Stephan Jones revealed in an interview.

After verbal abuse, tremendous pressure and humiliation the people would decide that they did not want to REALLY go back home to see their family in the states.

“At the top was the Temple's Staff, a select group of eight to ten unquestionably obedient college-educated women that undertook the most sensitive missions for the Temple.[26] They necessarily acclimated themselves to an, "ends justify the means" philosophy.[26]

The group started in Indiana, moved to Ukiah, California, to San Francisco and on to Jonestown, Guyana. Some left the group while in San Francisco and were known as “the gang of eight” who fled to the Montana Mountains. Jones sent searchers after them and death threats. They wrote of the abuse that went on and his treatment of the Bible. Just before a newspaper article went into print, it was sent to Jones. Jones read it and ordered an immediate move to Guyana.

Sometime later, family members began contacting a congressman, Leo Ryan, saying they thought their family members were being held against their will.

Congressman Ryan flew to Guyana with some of the former members and an entire news crew. One woman set the congressman’s will in her desk drawer, “just in case” with instructions that “If I never come back collect all recordings, pictures and writing and tell the story.

When the congressman and the former members arrived in Guyana some were a little scared. The congressman was confident. Nobody would do anything to a congressman, right?

But when they arrived, it was awe inspiring. Amazing! They had actually carved out a living in the jungle. They had beautiful stone trails, flowers, home grown food, daycare etc.

After the congressman had been there for a few days he was sure that the many worries and concerns in America about Jonestown were misunderstandings and this was a great place where people were very happy.

The Congressman spoke in one of their meetings:

“You guys really like it here!”

People enthusiastically started clapping. The clapping went on and on.

A man there wrote a note to the congressman saying, “Get me out of here!”

He put it into the congressman’s arm. But it fell when the congressman moved his arm.

“You dropped something!” he said handing it to the congressman.

A young boy shouted, “He passed a note! He passed a note!” [All were taught to tattle on each other.]

The congressman read it and told the camera crew to question everyone. Meanwhile he went and showed the note to Jim Jones. Many privately said they wanted to go back to the United States. As they were boarding a plane in the Guianese Port Kaituma Airstrip, a tractor pulling a trailer drove between them and the runway. Men with machine guns from the Jonestown temple police jumped out killing Congressman Ryan, three journalists, and one of the Temple defectors.

The bell rang, and an assembly meeting was called. Everybody was pretty shook up. Jim Jones said certain groups of people are out to kill us, take out children brainwash them and make them fascist. We should all die together. He had a punch made with cyanide-laced grape flavor along with a sedative. Suddenly the men with machine guns surrounded the building. Jones said that those who did not drink it would be shot. Children were taken from their mothers arms others just died in their mothers laps as poison was injected into their mouths. Mothers drank; fathers drank.

“Die with dignity, don’t die this way!” he said, “This is not the way for Socialists and Communists to die.” A hand full slipped through the guards and escaped into the jungle. They were very afraid the gunmen would pursue them. They ran and ran. One lady heard about five shots and that was it. But they were lost and had no pure water or food. They got fever and chills but finally got to safety.

In all, 918 people died, including over 270 children.

Jones wife’s body was found outside the pavilion with a will deeding all that was in the banks to the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.

One of the guys, Michael Prokes, who knew Jones was instructed to take a suitcase of money to the Communist Party in the Soviet Union. Afterward, he made an appointment in a hotel room with some journalists. He walked in the bathroom and shot himself.

The sad story of the Jim Jones sect is history. We study the past because history is His-story, God’s story. We study it that we may put our trust in God and not forget the works of God but would remember His commandments to do them. Psalm 78:5-7

The people who followed Jones in the beginning were charismatic, Antinomian [anti-God’s law] sensational, feeling driven, “Christians.” Worship services were not centered on the whole council and word of God [Scripture]. But, rather on music which got them all psyched up. He had an attractive rhetoric of all races accepting each other and living together.

But, when people are not as those in Berea in Acts 17:10-11 who searched the scriptures daily, to see whether what was being told them was consistent with scripture they stop following God and follow the man.


No matter who someone is they must follow God first, not their husband, nor wife, nor parent, nor boss, nor civil government official. All authority is under Christ and subject to his word. A man or woman’s authority is only that which God allows it to have. An unbiblical command is no command at all. The King is not law. The law of God is king.


Sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peoples_Temple


Jim’s son, Stephan Jones:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJURAVi6wpA&feature=related

Stephan identified with his father stating that, like his father, he knows how to get people to like him. He said the apple does not fall far from the tree.


Stephan still believes in what his father was trying to do, but says that it got out of hand and went too far. Stephan was shocked that his father would actually conduct this suicide considering the fact that his father was full of fear. Jim had ordered his son home to meet the congressman, but Stephan was in town playing basketball and just said, "No."


Although I have not read the book, many of the things I used in this article are referenced in the book Raven: The Untold Story of the Rev. Jim Jones and His People published in 1982

People lost in the jungle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze8hcbGXXkU&feature=related