Orthodoxy: Unity and Diversity in Christ’s Church

Debbie, part of Grace Reformation,

Opened her beautiful home to all eight of us.

At 50, Debbie has never been married

And is a great example of Christian service.

Regretably, we have no pictures of her. ~ Esther

Dr. Barry Horner, Dr. Gary DeMar, Mr. David VanDrunen, and Pastor Tom Schreiner arrived with their respective hosts. When Barry Horner arrived (Gary’s opponent of the next day) Lance enthusiastically greeted him and told him that he was aspiring to be as great a debater as Gary DeMar. The poor fellow, you could see him stiffen as a wave of shock washed over his face.

Mother wanted us to take notes, but I waited a long time to get my purse. Just as Regina and I came in, Dr. DeMar came in along with Pastor Poarch and the Schreiner’s.J We were soon at the entrance when Gary noticed Regina and I and greeted us with a smile and a handshake. We ran out to the van and got my stuff. Inside the door there was Gary surrounded by Daddy, Dinah, the guys and a few others. We joined the circle and chatted with him until the debate.

Pastor Poarch came up to Dr. DeMar and said; “When these people came to my church I thought they were all excited about ME but it turned out that they're excited about YOU!” He walked away with a grin. Gary laughed. He came back later with offers of security in case of being mobbed. All to rib us, of course. J

That evening was the Paedo v. Credo, Infant v. Believer Baptism debate. Each side first presented their position and then VanDrunen and Schreiner along with a moderator sat down questioned each other, discussed and then answered questions.

Basically VanDrunen made the case that baptism replaces circumcision and therefore as in the New Testament whole households rejoiced and were baptized. Baptism does not save us, but is an act of obedience.

Infants ought to be baptized [or dedicated to the LORD.] ~Melody

A sweet family helping host the conference.

Joy, (far right) is originally from Ukraine.

She and her husband met through

Yahoo Personals and married in March.

He liked her entry because she was not trying

to get all the right things mentioned

or what she wanted in a husband.

She just wrote why Christ is important.

They are expecting their first, a little girl, in January. ~ Regina

Connie and Dan cordinated music before the Credo/Pado baptism debate.
Eschatology Forum on Matthew 24
The moderator, explained his accent; "I like this, we've got Gary and Barry.
It makes a Scotsman happy to be able to roll my RRs."
Gary, can you explain the Mellinum to us?

Luke O. brought about 20 people.

After the debate this sweet lady came up to Mr. DeMar and had a lot of questions about what he believed about the Jews. She is married to a Jewish Christian and was concerned about Christians treating the Jews as the people of God because of their nationality and being the children of Abraham.

God said to Abraham Genesis 12:3 "I will bless those who bless you,

And I will curse him who curses you;

And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed."

But who are the true seed of Abraham: The Jews or Christians?

Galatians 3:7 Says “Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham. 8 And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham before hand, saying, ‘In you all the nations shall be blessed.’ 9 So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham.”

Galatians 3:26 says “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free , there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if you are Christ’s then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”

Galatians 4:28 “Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are children of promise. 29 But, as he who was born according to the flesh then persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, Even so it is now. 30 Nevertheless what does the Scripture say?” Cast out the bondwoman and her son, for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.” 31So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman but of the free. ~ Dinah